Firedtv Drivers Windows 8
From the list, select '1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)' and choose 'Next' to install that driver software The driver software should now be installed correctly. Now you are ready to install multiple FireDTV / FloppyDTV tuners on Windows 7. Signal Quality - Crucial for FireDTV & FloppyDTV. The Digital Everywhere cards are known to. I'm using windows 7 64 bit. I see someone else had this same error and was able to resolve it, but he wasn't kind enough to explain how for the next guy. I tried all the methods advised to him so far in this thread, including the drivers posted right above this post which are supposedly the miracle drivers lol. Windows 7 Forums is the largest help and support community, providing friendly help and advice for Microsoft Windows 7 Computers such as Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. Anyone tried FireDTV? List of tested TV Tuner Cards - Page 8 - Windows 7 Help Forums.
I'm running Windows 8 RTM Enterprise x64. I use an RME Fireface 400 audio interface (soundcard) and it does not function correctly unless I boot without driver signing so that I can use the legacy firewire driver I copied out of a Windows 7 x64 PC as it is not included in Win8 anymore. I spent quite a bit of money on importing a SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe (NN-E20012-S2) firewire controller, it has a Texas Instruments chip but even with this, I still have to use the legacy driver. Please consider adding the legacy driver back into Windows 8. It is a well documented fact that many audio engineers used this driver to get their audio interfaces working 100% in Windows 7.
I also met someone who uses a scanner and he also could only get it to function correctly using the legacy driver stripped out of a Win7 install. Please Microsoft, give us the legacy firewire driver back, it does work, all you have to do is sign the drivers!:).
I'm running Windows 8 RTM Enterprise x64. I use an RME Fireface 400 audio interface (soundcard) and it does not function correctly unless I boot without driver signing so that I can use the legacy firewire driver I copied out of a Windows 7 x64 PC as it is not included in Win8 anymore. I spent quite a bit of money on importing a SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe (NN-E20012-S2) firewire controller, it has a Texas Instruments chip but even with this, I still have to use the legacy driver. Please consider adding the legacy driver back into Windows 8.
It is a well documented fact that many audio engineers used this driver to get their audio interfaces working 100% in Windows 7. I also met someone who uses a scanner and he also could only get it to function correctly using the legacy driver stripped out of a Win7 install. Please Microsoft, give us the legacy firewire driver back, it does work, all you have to do is sign the drivers!:) +100. Windows 8 sees my firewire controller, whether I use the onboard VIA chipset that's built into my motherboard or if I use the Texas Instruments based SIIG firewire PCI-E card, both of them are visible in device manager and 'work'. The problem is that a lot of audio hardware requires the legacy firewire driver which was available in Windows 7.
The current/newer firewire driver that ships with Windows Vista, 7 and 8 is a newer driver that doesn't work with a lot of devices. Switching to the legacy driver is the only way to get some devices working. Windows 8 lacks this driver. I also agree 100%, I need this Legacy Driver for connecting a DV camera, a lot of People use older DV-Camcorders which only have a firewire connection to the PC.
These Camcorders dont work with the new Drivers. The same problem was already with Windows7, but could easily be solved with this legacy Driver, and this Driver worked. Should all these people throw away their older Equipment, because Microsoft don't want to sign and release this Driver again. Please Microsoft, give us the legacy firewire driver back. Like the OP, I too have an RME FireFace 400 which runs over firewire. I'm not particularly fond of the idea of discarding my 2 year old, $1000+ sound card simply because a legacy driver isn't signed. I'm really enjoying Windows 8 so far, but I'm happy I kept my Windows 7 drive intact as a last resort backup.
I'll be keeping my FF400 and Win8 installed in the hope that the legacy firewire makes a come back, but I'll be warning everyone with firewire hardware to steer clear of Windows 8 until then. Follow steps on Troubleshoot Compatibility Issues in Windows 8 Release Preview and see if it solve your issue. You might be able to run driver in compatibility mode. It is good idea to inform the manufacturer of this issue too. This does not solve the problem.
I can confirm the legacy drives works with my Texas instrument PCI-e firewire but disabling drivers signature is not a practical solution. I can't use my firewire audio interface (edirol fa 101), I am wandering if anybody is able to use a firewire audio interface on windows 8, so far I only saw negative reports. Audio interface are very expensive hardware, we need signed working drivers now! Look museum pieces like old Firewire will not be supported forever. Time to modernize and find new cameras with a hard disk or solid state storage.
My integrated audio hardware is a reasonable tone source too. These are not 'museum pieces' some of us are talking about $1000+ audio and video hardware, these are not casual consumer items like scanners/cheap cameras but rather high end professional audio devices. It would cost a minimum of $1000 to replace my audio interface.
I know firewire is slowly being phased out but Windows 8 still supports Firewire, it is only lacking the 'legacy' driver that has been included in Windows Vista and Windows 7. It's only about 500kb in size and works in Windows 8, all Microsoft have to do is sign it and offer it as a Windows Update. As I have said time and time again, dual boot 7 and 8 its obviously deprecated Not a practical solution for many and I don't think it's entirely legal. Dual boot options I just bought a Windows 7 machine and purchased the $14.95 Windows 8 upgrade.
Can I keep my Windows 7 running and install Windows 8 on a second partition or in a virtual machine. The 'Upgrade Assistant' looks for an existing OS so I could not figure out a way to do that easy. Technically, no, that is a violation of the license agreement. The upgrade replaces the old license completely. The terms are written in very clear language: The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading.
You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. Source: http://www.zdnet.com/the-ultimate-windows-8-upgrade-faq-/. As I have said time and time again, dual boot 7 and 8 its obviously deprecated Windows MVP, XP, Vista, 7 and 8. More people have climbed Everest than having 3 MVP's on the wall. Hardcore Games, Legendary is the only Way to Play Developer Windows IT Chess Economics Vegan Advocate PC Reviews It might deprecated but this is utter nonsense: high end firewire audio interface are still being sold right now, they are used by half the musician population, it is way way too early to deprecate those drivers. Hi, I can confirm that the Windows 7 Legacy Firewire driver works great in Windows 8 32 bit however I know I will need a signed version of the 64 bit driver when I buy my new computer this month.
Dual booting is not a option because I enjoy the benefits of Windows 8 and like to do all my work in one OS. To anyone at MS who is concerned please pass this request to the correct people. Would a Kickstarter campaign help the cause?
All that is needed is for MS to sign the 64 bit driver and offer it as a separate download. Please advise me on the correct way to rectify this issue and not workarounds like dual booting windows 7.
Note to forum mods: Windows 8 is excellent to the point its hard to go back to using Windows 7. MS has real opportunity to dominate the Pro Audio market given the current state of OSX and Apple Pro computers and Logic Pro. Please forward this thread to the correct Windows 8 people because its an easy solution that will prevent negativity amongst audio device manufactures, pro audio musicians and future up-graders. Thank you for your time and for volunteering to help people on these forums. I just went through swapping 4 different 1394 cards in my desktop with windows 8. Then, found a card at newegg that WORKS.
Rosewill RC-506E for about $30. PCI express 1394A and B card. Now my $5k in video equipment captures to Pinnacle Studio like it did before.
I was going to go the route of the legacy drivers, but the $30 ' plug it in and it works' was much easier. Glad that's helped you! Sadly I can't get that card in my country, I can't even verify the chipset it uses, I'll have to check on that later. Curious to understand why it would work on one of the controllers but not on the other. Is it possible to get 1394 traces for analysis?
Hi, thanks for taking an active interest! I have run a trace using the steps you have provided. Sometimes it's quick to reproduce the error, sometimes it takes a few minutes.
The trace file is 89MB compressed with WinRAR, I can upload it to my Dropbox share but is there any confidential information contained in the trace I should be concerned about? Otherwise I can email you the link personally. Firewire bus driver is a kernel-mode driver and, according to the Microsoft specifications, you are not able to self-sign this. Of course you can try, but the output of 'SignTool verify' without the /pa switch (if the /pa option is not specified, SignTool uses the Windows Driver Verification Policy, which we need) command will be root CA trust error. I don't think that Microsoft will sign the legacy driver and include it with future updates, so I vote for crowdsourcing some money for proven driver-signing certificate from authorized authority (like VeriSign). Who's with me?:) funkyspacecadet, I have read your topic at RME Audio Forum, what TI IEEE1394 bus do you use with Thesycon driver?
I have VIA-based controller and it's not compatible with Thesycon solution and my M-Audio firewire card. Curious to understand why it would work on one of the controllers but not on the other.
Is it possible to get 1394 traces for analysis? Hi, thanks for taking an active interest! I have run a trace using the steps you have provided.
Sometimes it's quick to reproduce the error, sometimes it takes a few minutes. The trace file is 89MB compressed with WinRAR, I can upload it to my Dropbox share but is there any confidential information contained in the trace I should be concerned about? Otherwise I can email you the link personally. Thanks Sure, thanks for spending your time on getting the traces. There should be nothing in the traces that is confidential in nature. You can post a link to the etl file. Hi Funkyspacecadet, we looked at your etl and we had to look through around 3 gigs of logs.
From first looks, we were not sure when the repro happened. Is it possible to point us to the time when you think the repro happened? Also, will it be possible to get logs again and also tell us an approximate time of when the repro happens in the log? Also, for the repro, can you tell me what the symptom is (ie.
Is the audio glitchy or the audio stops completely?). Thanks for your help again! If anyone else is having problems with your 1394 device with the Win8 stack, can you get us the traces and also briefly describe the symptom and the time at which the repro happens/starts? Hi Funkyspacecadet, we looked at your etl and we had to look through around 3 gigs of logs. From first looks, we were not sure when the repro happened.
Is it possible to point us to the time when you think the repro happened? Also, will it be possible to get logs again and also tell us an approximate time of when the repro happens in the log? Also, for the repro, can you tell me what the symptom is (ie.
Is the audio glitchy or the audio stops completely?). Thanks for your help again!
If anyone else is having problems with your 1394 device with the Win8 stack, can you get us the traces and also briefly describe the symptom and the time at which the repro happens/starts? Thanks again for taking the time, I really appreciate it! I can't pinpoint an exact time, I'll perform another test tonight for you as it's easy to reproduce. Symptoms: After a random amount of time the audio just loops, kind of like a buffer loop, but imagine the length of the buffer is about 1ms in length. So the 'beeeeep' buffer looping sound is dependant on the volume of the sound being played back.
It's basically identical to taking a.wav file and cutting a portion of it that's just a mere 1ms long or a few samples length and looping it. This happens in ANY audio application, whether I'm using my browser to watch Youtube, or play a video game or, most importantly, ork in my DAW which uses ASIO. Obviously my browser/mp3 player etc; use DirectSound/WDM, same issues. Things I have tried that have had no effect:. Using my motherboard onboard VIA 6315N 1394 contoller. Using my SIIG NN-E20012-S2 PCIe card (Texas Instruments TI XIO2200AZGW chip.
Performance / Power Profile in Win8 is set to High Performance. CPU C1, C3 etc; options disabled/enabled. Spread Spectrum in BIOS is disabled/enable. All other CPU power saving options disabled/enabled. Disabled VIA onboard FW controller while I use my SIIG card. Swearing and cursing:) When the audio does glitch, I don't see any real CPU/disk activity that causes it.
If I close my audio application (browser or game or music software) I can resume normal playback. What DOES help. Using my workaround to use the legacy FW driver from Win7 x64. Using the Thesycon driver from Qimaging's support/downloads In both those two cases, it's 100% stable, but obviously I have to reboot my PC twice to use unsigned drivers. In fact, with either the Thesycon or legacy driver, I can abuse my PC with Winrar on all 8 threads, all sorts of heavy things and no audio dropouts or glitches.
System Specs (self built, not OEM) CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k Motherboard: Asus P8P67M-Pro with latest BIOS RAM: 4x4GB DDR3 1333mhz GPU: Asus Radeon 5870 with latest drivers Disks: OCZ Vertex 4 SSD with 2x 1TB using Windows's soft-raid mirror. Windows 8 Pro x64 with all latest updates. I performed a clean install when I installed Win8 (ie: booted via USB, then from disk manager formatted C:) No bloatware/viruses of any kind, the only apps I have in the background are RME Fireface drivers + Microsoft Security Essentials I had all these problems with Windows 7 x64 too, but obviously it wasn't a big deal then because the legacy driver was available. I hope that gives you more background / useful information.
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I'll run another trace and try give you the times I start the trace and when it glitches. Ok here's the latest trace. I followed the same commands as you instructed. Pretty much as soon as my PC booted, started playing an MP3 it glitched, which is why the trace is so small, compared to the old one. I forgot to get times, but hopefully the trace is small enough to make it easier to detect this time. If you need another trace, please let me know how you'd want times to be reported. Would an uptime be more useful?
Ie: I could indicate the glitch happens at say, uptime of 00:45 or something. Trace #2 Thanks again! Hi Funkyspacecadet, looks like RME has an updated version of drivers/firmware for the device and it specifies Windows 8 - Is it possible to see if the update solves the problem? Let me know if you have tried that already:) Yeah, lol, obviously I've tried that;-) This isn't an RME specific issue though, it's been established since Vista that the only way a lot of people can get joy from their firewire devices is to use the legacy driver, it has been reported with RME, MOTU, M-Audio, and so on, and also firewire scanners, cameras etc; Not trying to be rude or anything, just trying to stress the point it's quite a global issue and I personally had this with Windows 7, too, at least Win 7 had the legacy option available:(. I'm running Windows 8 RTM Enterprise x64. I use an RME Fireface 400 audio interface (soundcard) and it does not function correctly unless I boot without driver signing so that I can use the legacy firewire driver I copied out of a Windows 7 x64 PC as it is not included in Win8 anymore. I spent quite a bit of money on importing a SIIG FireWire 2-Port PCIe (NN-E20012-S2) firewire controller, it has a Texas Instruments chip but even with this, I still have to use the legacy driver.
Please consider adding the legacy driver back into Windows 8. It is a well documented fact that many audio engineers used this driver to get their audio interfaces working 100% in Windows 7. I also met someone who uses a scanner and he also could only get it to function correctly using the legacy driver stripped out of a Win7 install.
Please Microsoft, give us the legacy firewire driver back, it does work, all you have to do is sign the drivers!:) Hi funkyspacecadet, After checking SIIG product and product support site there are these facts:. You need hardware version v2.0 which is clearly marked on the card for Windows 8 compatibility. The manual recommends a specific installation procedure-use it-Windows 8 has drivers for the device.
The manual recommends connecting the internal power connector when you are having external device issues-try it. Here is the link to the. SIIG makes very nice cards that work well with Windows. If you have hardware version 2.0, you should not have any issues. If you have v1.0, it will not work. Here is the to contact SIIG support if you continue to have issues. Windows 8 is different than Windows 7 and not all hardware from Win 7 or earlier will be compatible.
Which hardware version do you have? I don't think that Microsoft will sign the legacy driver and include it with future updates, so I vote for crowdsourcing some money for proven driver-signing certificate from authorized authority (like VeriSign). Who's with me?:) funkyspacecadet, I'm in for crowdsourcing. Have probably a few others at the Tascamforum also which would be interested. We use Tascam high-end FW audio interfaces and the legacy driver is keeping us at win7.
Anyone have a clue what a signing would cost? Hi funkyspacecadet, After checking SIIG product and product support site there are these facts:. You need hardware version v2.0 which is clearly marked on the card for Windows 8 compatibility. The manual recommends a specific installation procedure-use it-Windows 8 has drivers for the device. The manual recommends connecting the internal power connector when you are having external device issues-try it. Here is the link to the.
SIIG makes very nice cards that work well with Windows. If you have hardware version 2.0, you should not have any issues. If you have v1.0, it will not work. Here is the to contact SIIG support if you continue to have issues. Windows 8 is different than Windows 7 and not all hardware from Win 7 or earlier will be compatible. Which hardware version do you have?
Sorry for this very late reply, I think I'm on version 2.0 - I'd have to check next time I open my PC. In the last few weeks, RME have updated their driver and managed to solve my specific problems, I am very greatful to them! Sadly I see on the forums / friends it has not resolved the issue for everyone. Long story short, Microsoft really do need to make the legacy driver available.
It clearly helps a lot of people and it does work in Windows 8, even if unsigned. I don't think that Microsoft will sign the legacy driver and include it with future updates, so I vote for crowdsourcing some money for proven driver-signing certificate from authorized authority (like VeriSign). Who's with me?:) funkyspacecadet, I'm in for crowdsourcing. Have probably a few others at the Tascamforum also which would be interested. We use Tascam high-end FW audio interfaces and the legacy driver is keeping us at win7.
Anyone have a clue what a signing would cost? Can you sign a driver belonging to Microsoft? +1 for this request. I'm another pro audio systems vendor (and MS solutions partner) joing this thread where I see a few of us already. This is a very, very well known issue in our industry and the are $1000 - $2000 audio interfaces still being sold daily that require this legacy driver to function smoothly, let alone the older hardware in circulation. I've been keeping my clients on Win7 but a Win7 bug in one of the popular sequencers is forcing us to move over and this is going to cause so many headaches.
I'm going to try the RME solution now and i really don't expect to see this resolve, but it really can't hurt for us to keep bringing attention to this issue. I'm not even sure this is because of the legacy driver issue, or the Win 8 driver has errors in general. Win 7 the driver worked fine and, although I may have and forgot about it, I don't remember setting legacy. My Canon Digital Camcorder XH A1S, shows in the device drivers by name, and errors, saying it can't be installed. There has to be a better way to deal with this. I have tried a legacy driver, per www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=15505, but it still won't work.
Could you please bring back not just the legacy driver, but also the logic that decided when and how to use it. I used the same IEEE-1394 drivers downloaded from for my camera Panasonic NV-DX100 and it works! Use to save all my DV video on a PC with Windows 8.1 64bit. Information how to use the drivers directly on the download. Thanks Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was tearing my hair out trying to get my Panasonic NV-DS5 mini-DV camcorder to work properly under Win 8.1 64-bit, and this is the solution! Just to clarify, the file to download at the QImaging site is the QCam Installer for Windows (the top file on the downloads page).
Just select the appropriate file for your OS (32-bit or 64-bit). After downloading, double click it and it will guide you through the process of installing the correct Firewire driver (it's largely automatic).
I chose to install all components. And the best part is, it really does work!! Thank you pic1960 and QImaging! Hm, mine may be the same as yours, the numbers differ (6.2.9200.16384 for me) however we both have 16384 in ours, so perhaps the Win8.1 is just an updated build but not changed/updated in how it functions.
Firedtv Drivers Windows 8 1 Files
I'd have to update to 8.1 to really know, though. However, with the Thesycon driver so far I'm able to get about 5ms round trip in my DAW - 44khz, 24bit with a 48 samples buffer size so I am quite impressed with the super low latency!
Firedtv Drivers Windows 8
This was possible partly from using the Thesycon driver but also putting my GPU and other devices on MSI (as apposed to IRQ) which has reduced the interrupts I was getting. Weirdly enough, my Texas Instruments firewire PCI-e card died recently, using the VIA onboard controller and I haven't noticed any real difference.
I think the whole 'you need a TI card' thing may be a bit overhyped. This is with an RME Fireface 400.