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Hi all, My other half is a first responder, and I'm looking to do the course through the NHS if I can. I was wondering if once trained, you can respond to incidents on your motorbike, as opposed to your own car which is the norm. It would be alot quicker through traffic etc, and as long as you can it all the kit on your bike I don't see why not? Anybody with experience of this? You must be logged in to rate posts Cougarmech This post is not being displayed.
Cougarmech Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 21:37 - 23 Jul 2014 Post subject. Download uc browser for laptop. I'm a paramedic for an nhs ambulance service and I work with community first responders. The size and weight distribution of the gear bags would be too much on a motorcycle, none of the equipment is waterproof either. I'm not sure a trust would insure you for responding without a police qualification, even if it is at normal road speeds. However you could ask, maybe they can make an exception, they can only say no!
You must be logged in to rate posts Kierran This post is not being displayed. Kierran Trackday Trickster Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Karma: Posted: 23:27 - 23 Jul 2014 Post subject. One of my friends assists with the running of Scots ERVS which specialise in blood, milk, plasma, organ or other medical supplies.
You could see what your local version is and obtain the appropriate qualifications through them and mibe see about expanding their services to include the CFR role. Im not driving too fast, Im flying too low!
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One of my friends assists with the running of Scots ERVS which specialise in blood, milk, plasma, organ or other medical supplies. You could see what your local version is and obtain the appropriate qualifications through them and mibe see about expanding their services to include the CFR role. I ride with Freewheelers in Bristol, who do the same thing.
We use marked bikes (RT1200s) with blues and twos, BUT we are only allowed to use the blues and twos if a named doctor has confirmed that there is a medical emergency, which is around 1% of call-outs. Even when using them we are not allowed to break any traffic rules, so speed limits, red lights, no entries etc all apply. We don't have any specific blue-light training beyond a grainy 1980s police video, but we do all have IAM or RoSPA advanced quals, and have to renew them every three years. We provide our own insurance, which for 6 bikes (three of which are on duty at any time) and 100 riders costs us about £10k per year. I'm not sure how that translates to NHS first responders, but I hope it's helpful. You must be logged in to rate posts loxilane This post is not being displayed. Loxilane L Plate Warrior Joined: 08 May 2014 Karma: Posted: 11:23 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject.
I'm a paramedic for an nhs ambulance service and I work with community first responders. The size and weight distribution of the gear bags would be too much on a motorcycle, none of the equipment is waterproof either!
So how do many of the Ambulance services work (Birmingham being one) when they use bikes as 1st responders. As per the TV programs we see Just because my bike was A does not mean i am. You must be logged in to rate posts map This post is not being displayed. Map Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma: Posted: 11:37 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject.As per the TV programs we see Emergency Bikers Channel 5.
Used to catch it when they had the paramedics in Birmingham (a few series back). The arrogance of some of the coppers used to wind me up though.and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Gibbs, what did Duckie look like when he was younger?
You must be logged in to rate posts Cougarmech This post is not being displayed. Cougarmech Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 14:45 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject. I'm a paramedic for an nhs ambulance service and I work with community first responders. The size and weight distribution of the gear bags would be too much on a motorcycle, none of the equipment is waterproof either!
So how do many of the Ambulance services work (Birmingham being one) when they use bikes as 1st responders. As per the TV programs we see Because they are paramedics trained with police motorcyclists just until they do pursuit riding. These paramedics have specially outfitted bikes and equipment tailored to fit in the bikes panniers safely.
'first responders' are generally known as community first responders. They are not paramedics, but volunteers trained to use an aed. They are not blue light trained, or indeed trained at all.
Generally they are used in rural areas where it isn't cost effective to place an nhs vehicle. You must be logged in to rate posts iooi This post is not being displayed. Iooi Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma: Posted: 17:16 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject. Because they are paramedics trained with police motorcyclists just until they do pursuit riding. These paramedics have specially outfitted bikes and equipment tailored to fit in the bikes panniers safely.
So there is no logical reason that these panniers could be fitted to a std bike. So long it is suitable.
Same with training. No need for blue light, just advanced.
Although blue light would help. I guess it boils down to cost. But as the whole reason of 'community first responders' is the NHS is risking lives by saving cash, by NOT providing decent coverage of rural area's.
Just because my bike was A does not mean i am. You must be logged in to rate posts Cougarmech This post is not being displayed. Cougarmech Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 17:32 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject.
Because they are paramedics trained with police motorcyclists just until they do pursuit riding. These paramedics have specially outfitted bikes and equipment tailored to fit in the bikes panniers safely. So there is no logical reason that these panniers could be fitted to a std bike. So long it is suitable.
Same with training. No need for blue light, just advanced.
Although blue light would help. I guess it boils down to cost. But as the whole reason of 'community first responders' is the NHS is risking lives by saving cash, by NOT providing decent coverage of rural area's. Money money money unfortunately You must be logged in to rate posts TheCatSatOnTh. This post is not being displayed. Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Karma: Posted: 17:50 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject. Interesting info from all.
What sparked the thought of asking this question, was that yesterday driving home from a work, a bike went past, which I assumed was a police or ambulance service biker, only to see that it was actually a guy with the word BLOOD written on his hi-viz. I assume that he was blue light trained, working for a blood organization etc. However my question is more pertainent to the following situation. I live in a rural part of the country, and know a couple of people who have been first responders.
Firstly my brother, who a few years back did I think a week long course, or a couple of weekends training, and then shadowed a normal paramedic in one of those quick response cars. He wasn't trained to a high standard, didn't drive the vehicle etc., but basically went on shift with paramedics, as an extra hand, and to help give basic first aid/ deal with a mass casualty incident. He wore ambulance service clothing, never worked alone, and didn't use his own transport The other one I know is my other half, and she did a similar course at the end of which, she was issued with a load of med kit. (AED, entenox, big bag of typical trauma stuff).
The idea is, that she then lets a controller know when she is available for a call out, and if an incident takes place close by, which she could get to alot quicker than ambulance service, then she gets the call. She can't drive with blue lights or break any of the normal highway code, but uses her own vehicle to get to the incident, and then using her limited knowledge and kit, deals with the scene. The idea being that she can deal with the initial chaos, and 'keep the meat fresh' as so to speak, so that paramedics can then come to the scene and give proper treatment. My question was that I would be looking to do what the other half does, but thought it made sense that if possible, I would use the bike instead of my car, simply because even obeying all traffic laws, bikes have the speed advantage over cars (filtering etc.) As a side note, there is a guy who lives nearby who must be a community first responder, and I cringe every time I drive past his car, since he has decorated with american paramedic logos, and the word MEDIC on every door. Can't take anything away from him though, since I would be glad to have him arrive if I had an accident.
You must be logged in to rate posts yenpowell This post is not being displayed. Yenpowell World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Karma: Posted: 19:01 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject. When I had my stroke and dialled 999, the first person to turn up was a first responder who was also the lady who worked on the till at my local Tescos. She was followed by a paramedic in a car and then an ambulance and its two crew members. I got my national insurance's worth that day! When I limped into Tescos a few weeks later, the lady on the till said I was the first person she'd been called out to she'd seen a second time.
She said it in a way that made me think she'd killed them all. Blackmail is a nasty word.but not as nasty as phlegm!
KLZ1000 Versys, XRV750 Africa Twin & DR350 (leccy start thank god, had a kickstart DR before, nearly had a weekly coronary) You must be logged in to rate posts Cougarmech This post is not being displayed. Cougarmech Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 21:53 - 24 Jul 2014 Post subject. SERV exists to provide the facilities and resources which allows their volunteer members to deliver this vital service – a Rapid Response Medical Transport Service Transporting urgently needed medical items including Blood, Blood Products, Biological Samples, Vaccines, Medical Notes, X-Rays, Scans & Donor Breast Milk to Hospitals Out of Hours Free of Charge to the NHS Tl;dr - Free courier service, robbing work off of the couriers that were making sub £100 a week at times. As soon as it gets cold or the weather gets shitty the workload seemed to increase as the SERV guys couldn't be arsed to go and get wet. I also never met any SERV guys that were out at 3am in the freezing cold.
They all seem to think they're something special for doing it too, very arrogant, very up themselves. Very keen to point out they're IAM qualified. I've got no love for an organisation like that. Inb4 Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense. Riding:, Driving: You must be logged in to rate posts iooi This post is not being displayed. Iooi Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma: Posted: 08:59 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject.
But as the whole reason of 'community first responders' is the NHS is risking lives by saving cash The whole reason of paramedics is to save cash, else the NHS would send an A&E team out. Cheaper just to 'administer diesel' at the scene. Where does the train of thought end.
And by getting volunteer's to do it saves even more. While what these people do is fantastic and hats off to them. It is something that should not be needed. Plenty of other services that could be pared back to allow 1st line emergency response to be fully staffed by fully (blue light) trained staff and out in the community.
Interesting to note in another thread that a company has pretty much stopped staff from using bikes due to the risk on 'Cooperate manslaughter' Wonder where you would stand as one of these volunteers if you have a accident on the way to a call out. Just because my bike was A does not mean i am. You must be logged in to rate posts Andy S This post is not being displayed. Andy S Nova Slayer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 09:33 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject.
Tl;dr - Free courier service, robbing work off of the couriers that were making sub £100 a week at times. As soon as it gets cold or the weather gets shitty the workload seemed to increase as the SERV guys couldn't be arsed to go and get wet. I also never met any SERV guys that were out at 3am in the freezing cold. They all seem to think they're something special for doing it too, very arrogant, very up themselves.
Very keen to point out they're IAM qualified. I've got no love for an organisation like that. Inb4 rant You sir are a collosal twat who quite obviosuly has no idea about what SERV actually does. I ride for SERV and we ride in all weathers, all year round and all hours of the night. We never turn a job down, and if weather is too bad for a bike, we have people available with cars to do it. And we dont steal work from couriers. A lot of what we transport couldnt be taken by a normal courier because you have to be trained in the carriage of it.
The point of the blood bike charities (there are others that are not members of SERV, but do the same thing) is to save the NHS money, so it can be spent on other things rather than expensive couriers (when its somethign they can carry). And as for riding quals, yes, we all have to have passed either IAM or RoSPA advanced motorcycle test and renew every 3 years. I would hope no such organisation would expect any less. /rant You must be logged in to rate posts The999Kid This post is not being displayed. The999Kid World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Karma: Posted: 11:51 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject: Re: First responder/ FPOS using motorcycle?
Hi all, My other half is a first responder, and I'm looking to do the course through the NHS if I can. I was wondering if once trained, you can respond to incidents on your motorbike, as opposed to your own car which is the norm.
It would be alot quicker through traffic etc, and as long as you can it all the kit on your bike I don't see why not? Anybody with experience of this? My housemate enquired about this, he was told he couldn't respond on his motorcycle for insurance reasons. So he responds in his car instead. NDB - 1/11/2010 Nowhere.Elyseum wrote: I get the distinct feeling that Tim should be our secret weapon for future trolling.
I don't know many people that can rip the piss in Iambic pentameter You must be logged in to rate posts Iain This post is not being displayed because the poster is banned. Iain Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma: Posted: 14:19 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject. A lot of what we transport couldnt be taken by a normal courier because you have to be trained in the carriage of it. Please tell me more? Urgently needed medical items - Yup, did this on L plates. Blood, Blood Products, - Yup, did this on L plates.
Biological Samples, Vaccines, - Yup, did a shitload of this on L plates. Medical Notes, X-Rays, - Yup, shitloads of these on L plates Scans & Donor Breast Milk - Yup, again, did all of this on L plates (more scans than milk tbh) That's what SERV list as carrying, I carried at some point all the stuff listed on a YBR125. Andy S wrote.
And we dont steal work from couriers. A lot of what we transport couldnt be taken by a normal courier because you have to be trained in the carriage of it. The point of the blood bike charities (there are others that are not members of SERV, but do the same thing) is to save the NHS money, so it can be spent on other things rather than expensive couriers (when its somethign they can carry). Thats interesting. So say theres 10 path lab sample transfers. Usually 3rd party couriers two riders would get that split evenly, 5 jobs each. Lets keep in mind that as you're paid by loaded mile and not by hour - if you're not on the road you're not earning.
Mmmkay, sweet. That's a days worth of work, drop 50% of your wage straight off because of fuel expenses and you've likely made about £30 profit. Give/take a little. It's a very poor wage but it puts food on the table & a roof over your head. So now SERV come along. 'Alright lads, we'll do your job for free'. Serv take 8 of the jobs before it gets too late.It's now midnight, the couriers have earned nothing for a days wages.
The SERV guys go to bed/pussy out or whatever & that's all very nice. Then there's the really shit pay low mileage on call jobs, but actually - being the courier you've gotta stay up till 3am, 4am etc as you need the money. You then manage to scrape one job & earn £6 for a days work.
Find a service that doesn't already exist, rather than taking work from people who are technicly self employed and on sub minimum wage. The NHS funding will be fine - don't kid yourself. Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
Riding:, Driving: You must be logged in to rate posts ReadySalted This post is not being displayed. ReadySalted Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Karma: Posted: 19:21 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject. Some very interesting points in this thread. Regarding, volunteering organizations taking people's jobs. The point here is surely that people shouldn't stop volunteering to do a valuable and important job. Wages for bike couriers should be increased from what you've said, but you can't blame volunteers for under-cutting couriers when they are doing it for the right reasons. It's not like they are intending to put anybody out of a job, they just want to help the public.
You must be logged in to rate posts Iain This post is not being displayed because the poster is banned. Iain Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma: Posted: 21:11 - 25 Jul 2014 Post subject. Why aren't SERV members in hospitals cleaning them then? The NHS seems to be suffering more issues with cleanliness than the delivery of important documents?
Therefore they obviously can't employ enough cleaners, so why not assist the health service with that? They could ride to the hospital, shadow a trained cleaner (twice the people then more attention to detail etc), then go home after. They'd donate the same amount of time as they currently do, at the same times, No cleaners will have employment issues. It's because it's all about pretending to be something special and tarting around in a uniform! There's no glory in being a cleaner/drivers mate is there? Whereas everyone will see you being a pretend paramedic.same story as the above mentioned first responder with all the stickers up the car. You KNOW he's only in it for the attention rather than the genuine wish to help people.
Sure I'd rather that he was there as he's providing a potentially lifesaving free service, but you see my point? Nah, SERV is a bullshit charity that's there for wanking off your ego and nowt more. Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense. Riding:, Driving: You must be logged in to rate posts Andy S This post is not being displayed.
Andy S Nova Slayer Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Karma: Posted: 08:18 - 27 Jul 2014 Post subject. Please tell me more? Urgently needed medical items - Yup, did this on L plates. Blood, Blood Products, - Yup, did this on L plates. Biological Samples, Vaccines, - Yup, did a shitload of this on L plates. Medical Notes, X-Rays, - Yup, shitloads of these on L plates Scans & Donor Breast Milk - Yup, again, did all of this on L plates (more scans than milk tbh) That's what SERV list as carrying, I carried at some point all the stuff listed on a YBR125.
The xrays, medical items and scans, yep fill ya boots. (and as it happens, we rarely carry these items, the vast majority of what we move is blood/platelets/plasma/urgent samples/breast milk) The other stuff, in the 3 counties my group covers, the blood bank and hospitals insist on the carriers completing appropriate training on the safe packaging and carriage of these items.
And the rider must redo this training every 2 years. If your area does it differently, that's nice for them. Iain wrote. So say theres 10 path lab sample transfers. Usually 3rd party couriers two riders would get that split evenly, 5 jobs each. Lets keep in mind that as you're paid by loaded mile and not by hour - if you're not on the road you're not earning.
Mmmkay, sweet. That's a days worth of work, drop 50% of your wage straight off because of fuel expenses and you've likely made about £30 profit. Give/take a little.
It's a very poor wage but it puts food on the table & a roof over your head. So now SERV come along. 'Alright lads, we'll do your job for free'. Serv take 8 of the jobs before it gets too late.It's now midnight, the couriers have earned nothing for a days wages. The SERV guys go to bed/pussy out or whatever & that's all very nice.
Then there's the really shit pay low mileage on call jobs, but actually - being the courier you've gotta stay up till 3am, 4am etc as you need the money. You then manage to scrape one job & earn £6 for a days work. Find a service that doesn't already exist, rather than taking work from people who are technically self employed and on sub minimum wage. The NHS funding will be fine - don't kid yourself. All this read to me is 'oh no, I have a shit job that pays naff all and has no guaranteed income' If you want to be a courier great, but you knew the low earning potential of it when you started.
The hospitals in our region have been using the charity blood runners for donkeys years, so we haven't just stolen work out from under couriers feet. If the low wages of couriers is an issue to you, why don't you campaign to get them improved, rather than trying to slate (with misinformation) a charity for doing some good.
Also, as previously stated, we work straight through the night and never turn down a run, whatever the time or weather, so you can labour that point all you want, but you are flat out wrong. Iain wrote. Why aren't SERV members in hospitals cleaning them then? The NHS seems to be suffering more issues with cleanliness than the delivery of important documents? Therefore they obviously can't employ enough cleaners, so why not assist the health service with that? They could ride to the hospital, shadow a trained cleaner (twice the people then more attention to detail etc), then go home after.
They'd donate the same amount of time as they currently do, at the same times, No cleaners will have employment issues. It's because it's all about pretending to be something special and tarting around in a uniform! There's no glory in being a cleaner/drivers mate is there? Whereas everyone will see you being a pretend paramedic.same story as the above mentioned first responder with all the stickers up the car. You KNOW he's only in it for the attention rather than the genuine wish to help people.
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Sure I'd rather that he was there as he's providing a potentially lifesaving free service, but you see my point? Nah, SERV is a bullshit charity that's there for wanking off your ego and nowt more.
As my wife will tell you, I am shit at cleaning. Riding bikes on the other hand, I am pretty good.
And to be honest i could say the same to you. If couriering pays so shite and is so unreliable, why don't these disgruntled disillusioned couriers become a cleaner? Nice regular hours and money? Oh, but that wouldn't be as cool as riding some knackered old bike all day, right? Look, you have a misinformed opinion of what we do, and that's fine, happens all the time. Our group doesn't used mark bikes, we have to use our own, pay for our own fuel, and pay for our own jackets etc too.
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And we have all spent time and money passing advanced rider training. It isn't a free ride and we do it because without it a lot of these items (in our region) would not get transported overnight/ on weekends, and I have spoken to families we have helped first hand about some of the lives we have been a cog in the wheel of saving. Its something I enjoy doing and I am happy to give my time and money to. One day I hope you find something like it too.
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